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Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:21 am
by iplaymaple4u
Just wondering, why do they have bad English? They say things like "la" "dun" "duh" "r" "y" and some more stuff.
I am not trying to say that I have the best English, I am just saying that they should use better grammar.
For example this would be good grammar:
Hey how are you doing?
This would be bad:
hi how r u doin?

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:51 pm
by guyz92
Many people here is from malaysia and singapore.

and "hey" is in american style. Since most of them are from ASIAN, so ASIAN method of speaking most people can understand.

As long as people can you can understand what he/she is trying to say it should be okay. Not as bad as you totally can't understand what he/she is trying to say.

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 7:51 pm
by flee0308
Yes, many people here came from Malaysia and Singapore, where globalisation has changed the way people speak. This includes the prevalence of American English mixed into the usual "rojak" Singlish, which may be quite hard to understand. Of course, there is also the fact that most of us here are here to relax, and this causes us to be more relaxed on our English.

Lastly, you have to understand that grammar is not taught in schools in Singapore anymore, therefore you will notice that most young Singaporeans have a weak foundation in grammar. This problem accumulates into a snowball, which makes it hard for people to correct their English.

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:38 am
by iplaymaple4u
flee0308 wrote:Yes, many people here came from Malaysia and Singapore, where globalisation has changed the way people speak. This includes the prevalence of American English mixed into the usual "rojak" Singlish, which may be quite hard to understand. Of course, there is also the fact that most of us here are here to relax, and this causes us to be more relaxed on our English.

Lastly, you have to understand that grammar is not taught in schools in Singapore anymore, therefore you will notice that most young Singaporeans have a weak foundation in grammar. This problem accumulates into a snowball, which makes it hard for people to correct their English.
Why did they stop teaching that in Singapore? Does people in Singapore learn different languages other than English? (For example, Chinese)
EDIT: Since I live in Canada we learn grammar and such and we also learn French which is very easy. But in Singapore what do you learn? English and Chinese?
EDIT: Also one more thing... This may sound weird, but do you get slapped with a ruler when you do something bad or not do your homework or something? In Canada it's illegal to do that, but I heard that in other country's such as Asia you get slapped for not finishing your homework and such does this apply to Singapore/Malaysia at all?

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:41 pm
by flee0308
Singapore has 4 main languages, English, Chinese, Malayu Bahasa (Malay) and Tamil, which are examinable at the end of Primary school. Students by default are required to learn English and one other mother tongue (though you are allowed to drop it). In Secondary School, you can choose to learn a third langauge including one of the main languages and/or French/ Japanese/ Spanish. The third language you learnt can be used as a subject examinable during your 'O' levels examination, which comes at the end of Seconday school.

Grammar is actually taught in Primary school, just that the foundation is taken "for granted", and so teachers would start teaching topics like Direct and Indirect speech (eg. Instead of 'John said "I went to the doctor yesterday." ', it would be ' John said that he went to the doctor the previous day.") even if students may not know what is Subject-Verb Agreement.

Teachers in Singapore were allowed to cane students in the past for disobedience. However, that is now punishable by law. Students are only allowed to be caned by the Discipline Master/Mistress if they have broken severe rules, such as gambling, vandalism, or smoking. An interesting note is that students now are generally less disciplined compared to the past, however there are other factors which might result in this being so.

I am not too sure about Malaysia though.

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:44 am
by iSean
Flee == you you flipped the the "Bahasa Malayu" into "Malayu Bahasa"
Anyways, Malaysia change the language into "Bahasa Malaysia"

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 2:57 am
by iplaymaple4u
flee0308 wrote:Singapore has 4 main languages, English, Chinese, Malayu Bahasa (Malay) and Tamil, which are examinable at the end of Primary school. Students by default are required to learn English and one other mother tongue (though you are allowed to drop it). In Secondary School, you can choose to learn a third langauge including one of the main languages and/or French/ Japanese/ Spanish. The third language you learnt can be used as a subject examinable during your 'O' levels examination, which comes at the end of Seconday school.

Grammar is actually taught in Primary school, just that the foundation is taken "for granted", and so teachers would start teaching topics like Direct and Indirect speech (eg. Instead of 'John said "I went to the doctor yesterday." ', it would be ' John said that he went to the doctor the previous day.") even if students may not know what is Subject-Verb Agreement.

Teachers in Singapore were allowed to cane students in the past for disobedience. However, that is now punishable by law. Students are only allowed to be caned by the Discipline Master/Mistress if they have broken severe rules, such as gambling, vandalism, or smoking. An interesting note is that students now are generally less disciplined compared to the past, however there are other factors which might result in this being so.

I am not too sure about Malaysia though.
Do people in Malaysia learn Chinese?

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:21 am
by chizuruu
DUDE!DO YOUR F**KIN RESEARCH IF YOUR SO INTERESTED!

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 12:26 am
by iSean
iplaymaple4u wrote:
flee0308 wrote:Singapore has 4 main languages, English, Chinese, Malayu Bahasa (Malay) and Tamil, which are examinable at the end of Primary school. Students by default are required to learn English and one other mother tongue (though you are allowed to drop it). In Secondary School, you can choose to learn a third langauge including one of the main languages and/or French/ Japanese/ Spanish. The third language you learnt can be used as a subject examinable during your 'O' levels examination, which comes at the end of Seconday school.

Grammar is actually taught in Primary school, just that the foundation is taken "for granted", and so teachers would start teaching topics like Direct and Indirect speech (eg. Instead of 'John said "I went to the doctor yesterday." ', it would be ' John said that he went to the doctor the previous day.") even if students may not know what is Subject-Verb Agreement.

Teachers in Singapore were allowed to cane students in the past for disobedience. However, that is now punishable by law. Students are only allowed to be caned by the Discipline Master/Mistress if they have broken severe rules, such as gambling, vandalism, or smoking. An interesting note is that students now are generally less disciplined compared to the past, however there are other factors which might result in this being so.

I am not too sure about Malaysia though.
Do people in Malaysia learn Chinese?
Well we do. For people who wan to learn as their parents wanted them to do.
But we only read Chinese Simplify not Traditional

Re: Why do some people on this site have really bad English?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:19 am
by iZenna
iSean wrote:
iplaymaple4u wrote:
flee0308 wrote:Singapore has 4 main languages, English, Chinese, Malayu Bahasa (Malay) and Tamil, which are examinable at the end of Primary school. Students by default are required to learn English and one other mother tongue (though you are allowed to drop it). In Secondary School, you can choose to learn a third langauge including one of the main languages and/or French/ Japanese/ Spanish. The third language you learnt can be used as a subject examinable during your 'O' levels examination, which comes at the end of Seconday school.

Grammar is actually taught in Primary school, just that the foundation is taken "for granted", and so teachers would start teaching topics like Direct and Indirect speech (eg. Instead of 'John said "I went to the doctor yesterday." ', it would be ' John said that he went to the doctor the previous day.") even if students may not know what is Subject-Verb Agreement.

Teachers in Singapore were allowed to cane students in the past for disobedience. However, that is now punishable by law. Students are only allowed to be caned by the Discipline Master/Mistress if they have broken severe rules, such as gambling, vandalism, or smoking. An interesting note is that students now are generally less disciplined compared to the past, however there are other factors which might result in this being so.

I am not too sure about Malaysia though.
Do people in Malaysia learn Chinese?
Well we do. For people who wan to learn as their parents wanted them to do.
But we only read Chinese Simplify not Traditional
but hell dude newspaper's in traditional